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		<title>By: Florentina Arano</title>
		<link>http://jeffreymiron.com/2011/01/will-repeal-of-obamacare-increase-the-deficit/comment-page-1/#comment-4005</link>
		<dc:creator>Florentina Arano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the best schools for a creative writing major?</description>
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		<title>By: Jack Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 04:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The argument that repealing the health care bill will cost money can be described in four words: left wing voodoo economics. No more convincing to me than the Laffer curve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The argument that repealing the health care bill will cost money can be described in four words: left wing voodoo economics. No more convincing to me than the Laffer curve.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquelyn</title>
		<link>http://jeffreymiron.com/2011/01/will-repeal-of-obamacare-increase-the-deficit/comment-page-1/#comment-2992</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacquelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 17:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hospitals have to charge the &quot;insured&quot; more to cover the costs of those who have no money but get the treatment anyway.  What percentage of those who have no money but get treatment anyway are relatively recent legal or illegal immigrants to this country? I am sure the stats are out there. I would like to know the numbers. Perhaps immigration should be addressed directly as an issue of financial seriousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hospitals have to charge the &#8220;insured&#8221; more to cover the costs of those who have no money but get the treatment anyway.  What percentage of those who have no money but get treatment anyway are relatively recent legal or illegal immigrants to this country? I am sure the stats are out there. I would like to know the numbers. Perhaps immigration should be addressed directly as an issue of financial seriousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Phobos</title>
		<link>http://jeffreymiron.com/2011/01/will-repeal-of-obamacare-increase-the-deficit/comment-page-1/#comment-2991</link>
		<dc:creator>Phobos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when someone doesn&#039;t agree with a person&#039;s conclusion, how they instead fault them on the style of one sentence with a baseless conclusion of their own.  You sir, are a dope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when someone doesn&#8217;t agree with a person&#8217;s conclusion, how they instead fault them on the style of one sentence with a baseless conclusion of their own.  You sir, are a dope.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Williams</title>
		<link>http://jeffreymiron.com/2011/01/will-repeal-of-obamacare-increase-the-deficit/comment-page-1/#comment-2990</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 07:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this healthcare debate I&#039;ve been waiting for someone to say that the healthcare bill would save money because the uninsured would not be going to the super expensive emergency room because they lack the money to pay a local doctor. 

Hospitals have to charge the &quot;insured&quot; more to cover the costs of those who have no money but get treatment anyway. 

The logic is the healthcare bill would &quot;pay&quot; the local doctor $50 for a sick visit instead of $1000 for the emergency room visit. It seems it could actually save money if hospitals are no longer have to &quot;charge extra&quot; for uninsured which could lower hospital costs. 

Lower hospital costs could mean lower insurance costs.

It&#039;s not so pie-in-the-sky either. 

Many states already have a medicaid/private insurance model in place that works like I described above.

Many states understood that old medcaid programs paid for medical costs via hospital emergency rooms.
Many states cut medicaid costs by offering HMO-like plans to medicaid patients which directed them to go to less expensive local doctors instead of the emergency room.

Repealing Healthcare won&#039;t really solve the problem - Hospitals charge  too much - Insurance companies then charge too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this healthcare debate I&#8217;ve been waiting for someone to say that the healthcare bill would save money because the uninsured would not be going to the super expensive emergency room because they lack the money to pay a local doctor. </p>
<p>Hospitals have to charge the &#8220;insured&#8221; more to cover the costs of those who have no money but get treatment anyway. </p>
<p>The logic is the healthcare bill would &#8220;pay&#8221; the local doctor $50 for a sick visit instead of $1000 for the emergency room visit. It seems it could actually save money if hospitals are no longer have to &#8220;charge extra&#8221; for uninsured which could lower hospital costs. </p>
<p>Lower hospital costs could mean lower insurance costs.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so pie-in-the-sky either. </p>
<p>Many states already have a medicaid/private insurance model in place that works like I described above.</p>
<p>Many states understood that old medcaid programs paid for medical costs via hospital emergency rooms.<br />
Many states cut medicaid costs by offering HMO-like plans to medicaid patients which directed them to go to less expensive local doctors instead of the emergency room.</p>
<p>Repealing Healthcare won&#8217;t really solve the problem &#8211; Hospitals charge  too much &#8211; Insurance companies then charge too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let&#039;s not forget the Doc Fix that was done in an entirely different bill to help make Obamacare look like it reduced the deficit. I believe that was $200 billion by itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the Doc Fix that was done in an entirely different bill to help make Obamacare look like it reduced the deficit. I believe that was $200 billion by itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquelyn</title>
		<link>http://jeffreymiron.com/2011/01/will-repeal-of-obamacare-increase-the-deficit/comment-page-1/#comment-2986</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacquelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 04:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know the various financial impacts illegal immigration has had on our economy. If illegal immigration had not gone unchecked for the past 20 years, where would the USA be today, financially? Furthermore, how does the cumulative impact of 20 years of illegal immigration affect the future of America&#039;s economy? How is this similar or different from the immigration problem in the UK? Thank you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know the various financial impacts illegal immigration has had on our economy. If illegal immigration had not gone unchecked for the past 20 years, where would the USA be today, financially? Furthermore, how does the cumulative impact of 20 years of illegal immigration affect the future of America&#8217;s economy? How is this similar or different from the immigration problem in the UK? Thank you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 00:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Left out the fact that the costs are backloaded just over the 10-year forecast line (imagine that!). And there is no certainty that Congress will ever enact the cuts to Medicare (think the &quot;doc fix&quot; that happens ever year to stave off supposed cuts in Medicare already &quot;enacted&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left out the fact that the costs are backloaded just over the 10-year forecast line (imagine that!). And there is no certainty that Congress will ever enact the cuts to Medicare (think the &#8220;doc fix&#8221; that happens ever year to stave off supposed cuts in Medicare already &#8220;enacted&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Frozone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frozone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both a correct claim and utter nonsense. This blog is utter sophistry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both a correct claim and utter nonsense. This blog is utter sophistry.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Manion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Manion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when someone who is trying very hard to convince me of something closes with &quot;Everyone knows this ... &quot; Why bothered to convince us of what we all already know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when someone who is trying very hard to convince me of something closes with &#8220;Everyone knows this &#8230; &#8221; Why bothered to convince us of what we all already know?</p>
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