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		<title>By: xknbrgc</title>
		<link>http://jeffreymiron.com/2010/05/a-pessimistic-view-of-the-health-care-system/comment-page-1/#comment-3956</link>
		<dc:creator>xknbrgc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 15:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Foge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 17:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didnt know the forum rules allowed such bilrlinat posts.</description>
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		<title>By: Jayna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 05:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought I was the sensible one. Thanks for setting me strgahit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I thought I was the sensible one. Thanks for setting me strgahit.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon,

There is no polite way to say this so I just will say it: You are a naive fool. 

Unfortunately, our country is heading for the cliff because it is full of naive fools like yourself who practice magical thinking and completely lack common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon,</p>
<p>There is no polite way to say this so I just will say it: You are a naive fool. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, our country is heading for the cliff because it is full of naive fools like yourself who practice magical thinking and completely lack common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 17:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To dfvzazan: Once again, are you crazy? With Democratic majorities bigger than anything they&#039;ve had in decades, Obama barely manages to pass this health care bill, by the skin of his teeth, at great cost to his presidency and soon his majorities -- and this is a bill that every health interest group except insurers supports! And you pretend that we&#039;re inches from &quot;nationalizing the whole industry&quot;? What world are you and Clev living in?

Reality: Doctors OWN Congress. Congressmen bend over backwards to give doctors whatever they want. Nothing will ever pass Congress that takes a serious bite out of doctors -- ever. When the cuts have to come, other people will take the pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To dfvzazan: Once again, are you crazy? With Democratic majorities bigger than anything they&#8217;ve had in decades, Obama barely manages to pass this health care bill, by the skin of his teeth, at great cost to his presidency and soon his majorities &#8212; and this is a bill that every health interest group except insurers supports! And you pretend that we&#8217;re inches from &#8220;nationalizing the whole industry&#8221;? What world are you and Clev living in?</p>
<p>Reality: Doctors OWN Congress. Congressmen bend over backwards to give doctors whatever they want. Nothing will ever pass Congress that takes a serious bite out of doctors &#8212; ever. When the cuts have to come, other people will take the pain.</p>
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		<title>By: dfvzazan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dfvzazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 15:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, how could I have been so naive! Thank you, Anon, for ripping off my Obama Derangement Syndrome blinders and showing me the light.

One needs simply connect the dots to expose your obtuse logic.  Here&#039;s a crash course: The gov&#039;t expands insurance coverage through massive subsidies and price controls (community rating and guaranteed issue); &quot;greedy&quot; doctors eagerly rub their hands together as they await the flood of new revenue; increased demand on the system raises the cost of medical care and insurance; healthcare costs continue to rise at an even worse rate; the gov&#039;t again steps in proclaiming, &quot;We tried it the free market way, now we&#039;re nationalizing the whole industry;&quot; every last minutia of medical practice becomes purview of our benevolent politicians.  

If you are too blind to see how Obamacare was specifically designed to buy off doctors in the short term just to turn the screws on them in the long term, then I only hope your myopia is not the national epidemic I fear it might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, how could I have been so naive! Thank you, Anon, for ripping off my Obama Derangement Syndrome blinders and showing me the light.</p>
<p>One needs simply connect the dots to expose your obtuse logic.  Here&#8217;s a crash course: The gov&#8217;t expands insurance coverage through massive subsidies and price controls (community rating and guaranteed issue); &#8220;greedy&#8221; doctors eagerly rub their hands together as they await the flood of new revenue; increased demand on the system raises the cost of medical care and insurance; healthcare costs continue to rise at an even worse rate; the gov&#8217;t again steps in proclaiming, &#8220;We tried it the free market way, now we&#8217;re nationalizing the whole industry;&#8221; every last minutia of medical practice becomes purview of our benevolent politicians.  </p>
<p>If you are too blind to see how Obamacare was specifically designed to buy off doctors in the short term just to turn the screws on them in the long term, then I only hope your myopia is not the national epidemic I fear it might be.</p>
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		<title>By: Clev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 17:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon,

Your comments are so silly that they don&#039;t warrant reply, but I&#039;m bored. 

Simple math seems to be beyond your grasp. The government is bankrupt and to try to buy all these extra votes under those circumstances by screwing doctors and rationing care. Of course it didn&#039;t SAY it was going to do these things...they wouldn&#039;t have been able to cram the bill down America&#039;s throat if they had. However, simple math is all you need, and you are naive to the extent that the future is going to be a cold, hard slap in the face. 

P.S. The AMA is the closest thing to a lobby for physicians there is, and it only represents a small minority of physicians. Furthermore, it was bought off by the government and it&#039;s ranks of doctors decreased during the Obamacare debacle because it wasn&#039;t representing their interests. 


Sincerely,

Reality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon,</p>
<p>Your comments are so silly that they don&#8217;t warrant reply, but I&#8217;m bored. </p>
<p>Simple math seems to be beyond your grasp. The government is bankrupt and to try to buy all these extra votes under those circumstances by screwing doctors and rationing care. Of course it didn&#8217;t SAY it was going to do these things&#8230;they wouldn&#8217;t have been able to cram the bill down America&#8217;s throat if they had. However, simple math is all you need, and you are naive to the extent that the future is going to be a cold, hard slap in the face. </p>
<p>P.S. The AMA is the closest thing to a lobby for physicians there is, and it only represents a small minority of physicians. Furthermore, it was bought off by the government and it&#8217;s ranks of doctors decreased during the Obamacare debacle because it wasn&#8217;t representing their interests. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Reality</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS- Just clarifying that my comment is in reference to pessimistic views of the health care reform law expressed in comments here, not pessimistic views of the system as a whole expressed in the actual post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS- Just clarifying that my comment is in reference to pessimistic views of the health care reform law expressed in comments here, not pessimistic views of the system as a whole expressed in the actual post.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are crazy! The health care bill was supported by AMA, FAH, and AHA. You know why? Because it&#039;s a trillion dollars of new government spending on the health care system. You know where that spending goes? To help uninsured people buy health insurance. And where does health insurers&#039; money go? To you guys!

Insurers have a right to complain because their business model is being completely turned on its head. But doctors and hospitals are getting hundreds of billions more dollars from new customers and giving up basically nothing. The lobbying groups can see the forest for the trees, but you guys are so wrapped up in &quot;bleh bleh I hate Obama&quot; that you can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are crazy! The health care bill was supported by AMA, FAH, and AHA. You know why? Because it&#8217;s a trillion dollars of new government spending on the health care system. You know where that spending goes? To help uninsured people buy health insurance. And where does health insurers&#8217; money go? To you guys!</p>
<p>Insurers have a right to complain because their business model is being completely turned on its head. But doctors and hospitals are getting hundreds of billions more dollars from new customers and giving up basically nothing. The lobbying groups can see the forest for the trees, but you guys are so wrapped up in &#8220;bleh bleh I hate Obama&#8221; that you can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 17:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you by any chance a lawyer?

A far better way to increase quality would be to restore the profit motive.  In most other industries, those providers who perform low-quality work must charge less for their services, while the very best can charge premium fees.  Because we must maintain the illusion that everyone has a &quot;right&quot; to only the best in other peoples&#039; time and toil, we have deprived physicians of an important signal they could use to increase the quality of their services.  Also, people are dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you by any chance a lawyer?</p>
<p>A far better way to increase quality would be to restore the profit motive.  In most other industries, those providers who perform low-quality work must charge less for their services, while the very best can charge premium fees.  Because we must maintain the illusion that everyone has a &#8220;right&#8221; to only the best in other peoples&#8217; time and toil, we have deprived physicians of an important signal they could use to increase the quality of their services.  Also, people are dying.</p>
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